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Tech Talk & Articles => GM Cars => Topic started by: 1977 Transam on November 09, 2011, 07:22:45 AM
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Hi.
I've been searching for a few months now for someone who can do an extremely good paint job on my 1977 Transam.
I'm more stressed though about if the spray painter knows the correct way to apply the decals.
I've heard too many stories about decals being applied incorrectly.
Does anyone know of someone who would be capable of this please?
I'm especially interested if they've done anyone elses transams.
Thankyou.
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I've done three sets of 2nd gen decals, all turned out OK.
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m195/TA76400/Projects/joedecal4.jpg)
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m195/TA76400/Projects/joedecal5.jpg)
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m195/TA76400/Projects/joedecal8.jpg)
This is one of the moderator's cars...Joe74ta.
Give me a call if you want to talk about how its done etc...its not too hard, just takes some attention to detail. 0417680623 Leigh.
Do you have the decal set yet? If so, are they the papaer backed ones, or the plastic backed ones?
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PS...I'm just getting my car painted...hope its going in this Friday.
I settled on Wreck-a-Mended Smash repairs in Ingleburn. They do a lot of classic US/Aussie cars and have been around a while. Guys name to talk to is Alan.
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I haven't got the decals yet. Will be buying them from Dave at Pontiworld.
I want to find someone who can paint the car, apply the decals and clear coat straight afterwards.
Not sure if a spray painter will be comfortable doing it.
It would be great if I could chat to you closer to the time Leigh to get an idea of how hard it is to apply them.
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I strongly advise that you do not clear cote over the Decal as they will crack the clearcote around the decal the first hot day. Phoenix graphix even recommend against waxing the Decal.
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Here is a link to a post that is all about applying your decals.
http://allgentransams.com/forum/index.php?topic=1495.0
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I also advise against clear coating over the decals....vinyl has a wildly different expansio nand contraction rate to painted steel....eventually the paint will crack along the edge of decal.
Phoenix Graphix recommends the use of 303 Protectant over the decals...it has UV blockers in it and no silicones...great stuff.
With modern vinyl and the cars living a more pampered existance, theres no reason your decal won't last 30+ years....I've seen well looked after original decals that still look good after 30 years.
Happy to talk to you about it anytime....if you want to put them on after the car is painted, come over we'll do them like we did for Joe....a decal and BBQ day. You need two-three people for the hoodbird.
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Thanks for the advice Joe and Leigh.
Bbq day sounds great.
Why I mentioned a clear coat (and I understand why not to do it now thanks) is because when I got my car from Transam Florida they placed new pin striping on. When I went to the Pontiac Nationals I had pin striping. When I came back and stopped at Coffs Harbour I had less pin striping as several strips had peeled off and broken from the rain pelting it. I was shattered that day.
A good week turned into a bad one in an instant. Ever since then I haven't taken it to a show n shine because I don't think it deserves to be there in the state it's in (got 2nd place at the nationals).
One of the clubs sponsors does a laminate system for cars. I was hoping to paint it, apply decals and then get them to laminate my car to protect against them coming off again, and from chiping. Also it would make it a hell of a lot easier to get cleaned up for a show.
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Ever since then I haven't taken it to a show n shine because I don't think it deserves to be there in the state it's in
If it starts and runs, it deserves to be there, don't worry about the rest.
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I guess you're right Bonnevista. It would just be nice if she looked good at the same time. The bandits car never seemed to scratch or even get dirty in the movie. He he.
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I went to a spray painter this morning to check out prices to take the car back to metal, treated for any rust (only know of a couple of spots so far) and re-sprayed. I was blown away by the price........ $25K - $35K. Depending on what he found when it's rubbed back.
Is it just me or is that too much?
If it's about right then I guess my car will stay original forever.
:mad:
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Shop around, there is a place in Sth Windsor that does good work for much less than that...however he has a waiting list!
Sorry, name I can't remember.
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If you check the name of the guys in my post above...my estimate (not a quote) for a bare metal respray is around $15K depending on whats under the paint when it comes off. Any panel shop that says they can quote you is not telling the truth...all they can do is give you an estimate until they see it in the bare metal.
Wreck-a-Mended do a lot of older classic cars....which is why I went to them...plus a recommendation from one of the club members who's used them before.
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I'll bet the pinstriping came off for one of two reasons.....they didn't use wax 7 grease remover to clean the paint first, or they used cheap pinstriping.
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Thanks Leigh and 68GTO. I'm looking into them as we speak.
Out of curiosity Leigh how long did yours take to complete please not counting the decals?
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lol..I dropped my car off on Friday....buggers aven't even started it yet.... hahaha.
Seriously, I reckon it'll take a couple of months probably.
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He he. I'll pop round and check out your Firebird and have a chat to them next week.
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I went to a spray painter this morning to check out prices to take the car back to metal, treated for any rust (only know of a couple of spots so far) and re-sprayed. I was blown away by the price........ $25K - $35K. Depending on what he found when it's rubbed back.
Is it just me or is that too much?
If it's about right then I guess my car will stay original forever.
:mad:[/rquote I'm curious to know which company quoted you these figures. U2 me if you wish to be discrete. Eddie
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Hi Eddie.
It was Emu Plains Smash Repair.
There's probably people out there that would pay those kinds of dollars. But to me it takes a long time to save up that kind of cash.