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Tech Talk & Articles => AMCCA Members Tech Talk => Topic started by: WILD56 on June 14, 2018, 11:45:01 AM
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Gday guys,
I have Wilwood rotors and calipers all around on the F100. They currently have racing compound pads, which came with the kits. The pads are the softest compound (as far as i can tell) that Wilwood provides in their kits (BP-10). They are still extremely hard for my needs and driving style.
The pads require a lot of heat to be efficient in what they do, also known as "stopping". My truck is heavy an takes a while to actually come to a stop, even at lower speeds. As a result I am a very careful driver, especially in traffic.
I contacted Bendix, they said "not a chance" on their end. They don't have anything for Wilwood applications.
I contacted Northern Brake and Clutch in Victoria under recommendation, as he apparently knows everything about brakes and is a nice guy. The owner is hands down the rudest prick in the world. So I guess he was a dead end.
Summit Racing and similar all have other manufacturers race compound pads for my application. But that's just it, they are all race compounds. I require the softest compound I can find.
In this wide world of ours I am sure Im not the only one that has come across this issue. The rotors and calipers that I have are widely used on aftermarket applications for street use.
At this stage I am unsure where to look. Image attached for reference. I appreciate any feedback.
Cheers
Stan
(https://i.imgur.com/xcXxMk7.jpg)
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G'day Stan,
I had the same problem years ago when I started fitting Wilwood brakes. All their kits are supplied with race compound pads because they were originally designed for race use only. The reason they were not compliant for engineering until recently because they had no dust seals in their calipers. The new generation calipers (the last two years) have dust seals installed so make sure you have the later ones if you want your car engineered.
Back to brake pads....I do have some left over in my shop with your description, give me a couple of days so I can find them and will get back to you.
Cheers, Chris.
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Failing that you could also try VPW in Melbourne.
WIL1508855K Brake Pads Smart Pad BP-10 Medium-Friction Semi-Metallic High Performance Set $82.64
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I think you guys may have misunderstood me. I already have the BP-10 pads installed. They came with the kits.
I need a softer street pad from somewhere in that pad shape. The BP-10 pads are a very hard compound.
If all else fails, ill just have to alter my driving to suit.
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I had a set of caliper that I never used and sold. The guy I bought them off said there was a Volvo pad that had the same pad backing shape that you could use for street. I wish I could remember the part no!
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G'day Wild56, I had a long association with Volvo parts in the past - just spent @ 30mins trawling thru old Volvo brake info & diagrams & cannot find a backing plate match for Volvo pads up to mid '90s. Possibly theyre newer than this??? Hope it helps in some way...
Cheers
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Stan, there's a brake parts supplier in the Liverpool (Sydney) area that I've dealt with in the past, unfortunately I can't remember their name. However, if you find a brake manufacturer like them, you should be able to take your disc pads to them and they will bond new material to the old backing plates in any type of material you need.
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I didn't realise that a service like that existed. I'll keep that in mind.
Thanks
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Hi Wild 56 there is a brake supplier in Fairfield call Burt Bros Automotive PH 96811188 Address is 116 - 118 Fairfield Road Fairfield Good Luck
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hi Stan,
I have done an extensive search on google and various sites in the US and as it seems the pads in question are unique to Wilwood specific caliper. They even specify that they are high performance street or track or race use only. They are not even allowed in California. The only company I could find that sells alternative are Hawk Performance. There is a Raybestos interchange number but it is the same compound because "race only". My advice is to try and contact Burt Bros in Fairfield and see if they can remould your pads to the more user friendly compound or get rid of your calipers altogether and use Falcon or Commodore calipers.
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Thanks for all the replies. I have also been doing a bit of research, as I was curious about it.
Earlier today a "little bird that rides a pony" told me about EBC Brakes in the UK.
I looked them up and they indeed do a direct replacement pad for my calipers in various compounds. They are made in the UK and distributed by RDA Brakes Australia, available in various outlets around Sydney. I looked into their products and the ones below are perfect for my application.
https://www.ebcbrakeshop.co.uk/ebc-yellowstuff-brake-pads-dp4037r_p1157364.htm
Even though the EBC brakes are race bred, they are apparently superb on the street and have a great cold bite with minimal rotor ware, which is more then I can say for my pads, which I've never really used at the "warm" stage and "cold" stage is horrid.
I will do the call around on Monday and see what happens. I reckon I'm on a winner though.
Cheers
Stan
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I will check the pads I have in my vette ,and let you know what compound they are.
its done a lot of work and pads are sill good.
Bfit
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Earlier today a "little bird that rides a pony" told me about EBC Brakes in the UK.
Haha. Only too glad to help mate. :way: