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Club News => AMCCA Members Chat Room => Topic started by: cpu on July 12, 2010, 05:54:12 PM
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This just came across our desk.
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"Urgent action required by all enthusiasts
Please note that this effects everyone in our enthusiast movement no matter what car you own
Now is the time to act and act swiftly to ensure we have the right to own and build our cars our way within current engineers guidelines
This has the potential to stop us putting our veteran vintage classics and hotrods on full registration period so we need to stand up and say "enough is enough"
Rally the support people we have to say "no way" and right now
Please click on the link below and sign asap
We must support the rodders who have gone into battle on this for the past few months
Don't let these ridiculous laws destroy our way of life and the precious hobby most of us live for
The NSW RTA is proposing changes to the current registration system for modified vehicles.
These changes will mean that the majority of modified vehicles will be classified as individually constructed and will have to comply with the ADR's current on the day that it goes for registration.
Please follow the link below and sign the petition to assist us in taking the fight to the NSW Transport Minister."
http://www.gopetition.com/online/37707.html
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Signed! :boxing:
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Signed! :boxing:
Ditto
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signed and link added to facebook !~
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signed!
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:theysaid:
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Same same
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Signed & forwarded
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Signed. .... them. Public service a..holes.
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Just signed # 544
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Hi folks.,...
Like everything with the internet there is a down side.
Online petitions rarely have much success,if you really care and give a toss,fire off an email to your local member of parliament and to the Minister if your really excited.
If a MP gets 1,2,3 or more letters relating to the same matter ,that generally means there is concern within the public of there Electorate.
This weeks transport Minister is
John Robertson
office@robertson.minister.nsw.gov.au
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I do believe this petition will finish up at the Transport Minister office lets hope you are wrong & this does have the effect that it is intended for & you can still send your local member a email as well which may also help.
:seeya: Garry :hangloose:
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My point being that on-line petitions dont carry much strength,When you go into Macquarie St you only get one chance,to prove your case,On line petitions are not the best choice of amunition.
Other Members of Parliament raising the comcerns with the Minister along with a strong case from the affected Parties is the best method.
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Who's good at writing letters?
If someone outlines all the points and puts it a document form then we can all copy it, then each person can put your local Politicians name and address at the top and send it off! Thats what I did for the lowering/raising law that got stopped! And I did get a response, if we all flood our local Politicians with letters they have to act! remember there is elections soon so they may actually listen for a change????
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Who's good at writing letters?
If someone outlines all the points and puts it a document form then we can all copy it, then each person can put your local Politicians name and address at the top and send it off! Thats what I did for the lowering/raising law that got stopped! And I did get a response, if we all flood our local Politicians with letters they have to act! remember there is elections soon so they may actually listen for a change????
That is a great idea andy , if we all had a simular letter outlaying our concerns , we all live in different parts of sydney , NSW , that just might make them think that this could cost votes and is a bigger issue than what they think.
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The petition lacks a whole lot of info,such as a link to the suggested changes.
Ive been looking about but cant come across too much.Plenty of waffle on forums.
The basis for all this seems to be the minutes of the ASRF Meeting.
IMO if these guys are speaking on all our behalves,then we are in the poo,with some of the cars carrying there stickers is it any wonder changes "are in the wind".
Anyone know where to find the relevant details, from the RTA or the Minister,to substantiate the changes,That info would be handy to have, to write a decent letter with some relevant points of fact.
Hoorroo
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I received this email about the petition asking could we post it on our forum so I got CPU to post it, no one said we have to sign it but I think it will help & as Andy said put a letter together & post it to your local member. If all of these changes happen with the ASRF it won't take long before RTA start looking at all imported cars & how many stock standard cars do we have in our club. I know the CMC will not put much effort into this because they only like stock standard cars.
:seeya: Garry :hangloose:
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Thats great thats its on this forum along with every other forum and all over facebook.
Still doesnt change the point that it seems to be based on not very much at all and no press release from the Gov or the RTA and very little from the source of this starting up.
The best info for the start of this is below.
"The main reason for this petition is that the RTA has had meeting with
Delegates from the Australian Street Rod Federation and have told them (even
showed them a draft copy) of a new system. However they will not release
this information, Hence the need for consultation. I will send out more
information as I get it."
So when we have so more info & facts on the actual plans we can then action it effectively I guess.
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Got this off Ozrodders....it was written by one of the two ASRF reps who were in the meeting with the RTA
Hi Rodders,
I must admit I am not partial to these forums as things can be taken out of context and blown out of proportion.
I would like to clarify that no information has been withheld from the ASRF Committee meetings with the RTA as mentioned in this and other forums.
It has been well documented that the RTA has been working for several years on a revised version of the Modified Production Code of Practice that we register our vehicles to today. The document that the RTA is working with to replace the Code of Practice is called VSB14 (The National Code of Practice for Modified Vehicles) a subclause of this document is the National Guidelines for Street Rods. This document is a Technical Document that most States with the exception of NSW and QLD have adopted as Policy. The ASRF has been dealing with the RTA to implement a registration system for Street Rods utilising the Technical Guidelines from this document.
On Friday 2nd July 2010 two members of the ASRF Committee (myself and Darren Abela) met with the RTA, in this three hour meeting several issues were discussed, one of which was the RTA proposed that Street Rods should look at adopting the line of an ICV with exemptions, another was discussed regarding a restricted registration based on the above document with restricted days of road use. The RTA asked that we the ASRF Committee submit a revised proposal considering these options. I am at present finalising our revised submission based on an unrestricted registration scheme. The Committee will review this revised proposal before submission to the RTA.
As mentioned above the RTA is working on the replacement Guidelines and in their wisdom are not looking to implement it as a whole document, we were given a portion of the draft document be it half a page defining what they might classify as an ICV. If implemented this portion this would make most heavily modified vehicles ICV’s, but this is draft document only.
I would like to make a point at this time that the RTA a couple of years ago put VSB14 (National Code of Practice for Modified Vehicles) out for public comment and to the Working Parties who assisted in the development of the Modified Production Code of Practice we register vehicles to today, (this document was original implemented in 1994) however the ASRF who was part of the original Working Party was not consulted (they were forgotten). This document has been closed for Public Comment for some time now, technically the ASRF or any other party other than the working party have no rebuff on this document, however the RTA have advised they would like our input on any issues in this document. We are still waiting on a complete draft of the VSB14.
Another point raised at the meeting was the implementation of the revised VSI50 (Raising and lowering of vehicles) this has been well documented through the ASRF as the ASRF Committee brokered a deal with the RTA that Street Rods have exemption to this document. The RTA advised that they are looking to implement VSI50 in August 2010 and there will be a grace period.
The RTA also advised that the new Engineering System is hoped to be implemented in February 2011.
On another matter and I hope I am not speaking out of term, but to try and minimise phone calls and people’s concerns that nothing is being done for post 49 vehicles, I am meeting with some prominent car enthusiasts this Friday, with the intent of the group to establish an Umbrella Association for all vehicle registrations (i.e. Street Machines, Vintage & Veteran, 4 Wheel Drives, Modified Vehicles, etc). This Association will not be looking at taking over the registration or administration from these car groups, it is purely for numbers, if a group has issues or needs assistance in registration with numbers backing an Association we can achieve a lot more than each individual group on its own. I agree with some people’s opinions in this forum that things look dark however on a brighter note we have people ready to take the fight, we need to not get confused about these issues, not think some organisation is going to take over the world, we just need to trust and assist those taking up the fight after all we are all motor enthusiast looking to keep what we believe is rightfully ours. Years ago I figured out that it was ok to complain once, but if you want results you need to take action, you need to do it in the right process and in due course to get the right results.
We will keep you informed on further information pertaining to the Umbrella Association.
I would like to remind everybody that the Directors and Committees of the ASRF are Volunteers, no one is being paid for their efforts.
Something to think about when talking to Politicians you talk numbers, the more numbers the bigger the ears open up, Politicians talk electorate (numbers) an electorate is equal to 47,500 voters so if we have 600,000 members under one Umbrella Association we should be able to pull a chair up to the table when needed.
At this point I would like to thank all those who are supporting us in this fight to keep our Hobbies, Passions and Heritage alive.
I hope this has cleared up some confusion.
Yours in rodding
Elvis
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A sensible approach. Does anyone know the actual numbers of car club members State and Federally? Eddie
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Thanks for the post cluxford,Some reputable info on it.
Here is the link to the thread wich contained that post:
http://www.ozrodders.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=37930
After some calls today,
The Governments web site is a bit slow with the changes to the Ministry.It is no long Robertson.
It is infact David Borger,
Telephone:
(02) 9228 3555
Fax:
(02) 9228 3585
Email:
minister@borger.minister.nsw.gov.au
Street Address:
Governor Macquarie Tower
Level 37, 1 Farrer Place, SYDNEY NSW 2000
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The Governments web site is a bit slow with the changes to the Ministry.It is no long Robertson.
It is infact David Borger,
Thats because Ministers changer every week in this Government!
Thanks for the link to ozrodders, I will be following the thread! I just hope that taking action wont be to late! We need a organize a representative organization very quick with all types of car clubs including doof doofers!
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Howdy folks,
Had a call back from Borgers office with the following info,be it limited.
The raising and lowering is still on the cards,and there is a working party with Industry input included in the working party,one of wich ASRF is on again,appears an ammended version is close.
In regards to the ICV draft plans etc.
Next thursday it goes or is being discussed with the Australian National Motor Vehicle Certification Board,Indicating a National System.Then back to be dealt with by each State,I got the impression the States can then tweak it after Consultation in the time ahead.
The girl I spoke with obviously isnt all over this as one can expect so getting the finer details was a bit hard.She had been in contact with the RTA and was relaying what they had informed her.
Cheers
Luke
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I have just spoken to a few of the other car club Presidents & we are all in agreement that signing the petition is the way to start this off getting #'s. Then when we find out what the changes will be we are going to have a meeting & go from there with a properly drafted letter from each club. I have got a meeting tomorrow with a friend from the head office of the RTA.
:seeya: Garry :hangloose:
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Just Signed :boxing::boxing:
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Please keep us posted on developments on this one guys.
If new regulations are brought in whats going to happen to the potentially hundreds of cars that are part way built ?. Surely it cant be expected that they will need to change what they have already done in order to comply ?.
I could see that becoming a legal issue with the potential for group action.
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:hello: this is the latest news I have on this issue.
Here is the information regarding “Vehicle Registration Information Day” to be held at the Regency Ramblers Club House located on the cnr Badgerys Creek Road & Elizabeth Drive Badgerys Creek, starting at 10.00am on Saturday the 14th of August.
This has been organised by the ASRF but is open to everyone that wants information. We will be going through what is on the table at present from the RTA, potential changes, VSI 50 (suspension rule) and Engineering System changes.
It doesn’t matter what type of vehicle a person owns, emphasising everyone is welcome, the more the better to get the correct information out there so everyone understands whats happening at present and in the future.
If you can pass this onto as many people as you can it would be appreciated.
IMPORTANT NOTE - This is not an argument session its purely for the ASRF to tell us what the RTA are proposing and whats already in place so we understand everything as well as possible and clarify all the things we are hearing about future rego laws etc.
:seeya: Garry :hangloose:
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NSW Law and Regulation as I understand
My opinion only.
Three ways for regulation.
Legislation which can include standards if the standard is legislated
as not all standards are law.
A Ministerial directive.
Or a code of practice which is usually dealt with by a Government department. It appears this Modification of Vehicles change is a code of practice. Codes of practice usually come up for review every few years and the results of the changes to the code are not for public comment unless the department wants comment.
Once the changes to the code are completed it is sent to the appropriate Minister to sign off for the Code to become law.
In other words the Minister is the one to say whether the changes are to be law or require further ammendments.
It could be assumed a Minister could sign off on numerous reviewed Codes of Practice in one year some rather insignifcantly affecting our daily lives others not so.
Viewing the completed changes to the Code in it,s entirtey before submission to the Minister before signing and forming opinions of concern to the changes is the most difficult part.
Even then the Code can be sent back for further review if the Minister has concerns via public inference and then resubmitted before you know it.
I guess it all depends on whether the reviewer can see reason and is sympathetic to public concerns to the justification of the propsed changes.
Hope I,m on the right track.
Stuart
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All I know is Im going hell for leather to get my Effiy finished cause the way I understand it the "do gooders" will be stuffing it for everyone whom hasnt got full rego, but the lighter side is, it looks good when you wanna sell.
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All I know is Im going hell for leather to get my Effiy finished cause the way I understand it the "do gooders" will be stuffing it for everyone whom hasnt got full rego, but the lighter side is, it looks good when you wanna sell.
+1
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NSW Law and Regulation as I understand
My opinion only.
Three ways for regulation.
Legislation which can include standards if the standard is legislated
as not all standards are law.
A Ministerial directive.
Or a code of practice which is usually dealt with by a Government department. It appears this Modification of Vehicles change is a code of practice. Codes of practice usually come up for review every few years and the results of the changes to the code are not for public comment unless the department wants comment.
Once the changes to the code are completed it is sent to the appropriate Minister to sign off for the Code to become law.
In other words the Minister is the one to say whether the changes are to be law or require further ammendments.
It could be assumed a Minister could sign off on numerous reviewed Codes of Practice in one year some rather insignifcantly affecting our daily lives others not so.
Viewing the completed changes to the Code in it,s entirtey before submission to the Minister before signing and forming opinions of concern to the changes is the most difficult part.
Even then the Code can be sent back for further review if the Minister has concerns via public inference and then resubmitted before you know it.
I guess it all depends on whether the reviewer can see reason and is sympathetic to public concerns to the justification of the propsed changes.
Hope I,m on the right track.
Stuart
Thats why as soon as we find out whats going on we need to write to to our local members asap and flood them with letters of protest! the more we write the more chance we have of rectifying this crap!
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Hi All,
Just rang to confirm this meeting is still on & it is.
I was planning on going but work both saturday and sunday has put a holt to my w/end.
Is anyone able to go and come back with some info on whats planned.
It is at 10am at the Regency Ramblers Club House.
Cheers
Luke
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I will have all the info emailed to me
:seeya: Garry :hangloose:
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I might go and have a look? Is anyone one else thinkin of going?
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Did anyone go to this meeting??
A mate went to the meeting out at Badgerys Creek where the ASRF held a public meeting about what they have been trying to negotiate with the RTA and the changes they want to bring in and from what we were told, it’s not good… Not good at all! Apparently that taking to the RTA for inspection before a pink slip was a myth, thank god!!!!!!
Basically, every state except for NSW is going to be adopting the National Code of Practice VSB14 (http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/vsb_ncop.aspx) rules to be their new “Modified Production” and “ICV” guidelines for vehicles that being built for full/restricted regos but NSW RTA, in true typical style, is rejecting the NCOP because it’s too lenient and are going off on their own tangent. Apparently in a month or 2 they are going to be releasing their new Modified Production & ICV revised documents for public comment and looking to implement next year. It’s apparently been 8 years in the works.
Engineers – Apparently around February, every engineer is required to enroll in the new format of signatories and have the uni degrees and paperwork that the RTA want, and the RTA is definitely selecting who they want – apparently they are targeting the more uni graduate who can tell you the tensile strength of a steel plate but has no clue about cars. They expect that the majority of who is on the list right now will not bother updating either. The changes sound very tough for what Engineers need to do/test and reckon that basically a report will cost 3x as much as there is now 3x more work. Also engineers will be required submit their copy of your report to the RTA themselves and no more than 2 weeks after you received your papers and rego your car otherwise the RTA has grounds to have your car inspected and/or engineer papers disqualified. Also Engineers are required to keep identical copies of engineer reports on file and will be audited at any time and should they not have your individual paperwork on file then and there, your papers are again subject for disqualification… This is for the new method coming in next year and not current reports.
Another thing they were talking about is VSI50 – raising and lowering vehicles 50mm or more. If the ride height is not documented on your report the car will be applicable to whatever ride height it came out as standard. The measurement is taken from centre axle to the lip of the guard – They call it “Trim Height”. Apparently if the height is included on the report you’re covered, something along the lines of “At the time of inspection the vehicle trim heights measured 123mm on the front axles and 456mm on the rear axles”. Also if a vehicle height has been altered higher or lower and is more than 150mm, your car will not be registered apparently. Who knows what they are going to do with the re-bodied hotrods on HQ chassis etc.
The meeting finished off with a – if anyone is building cars or halfway through getting them engineered, get them finished off right now and registered!!!
All in all, the ASRF is trying to get the RTA to see some sense in pre-49 cars but 49 onward, we’re going to be severely stuffed by the sounds! And it’s only in NSW!!! One comment that one of the car fabricators who is on the ASRF committee and you’ll laugh at this – “The head guy of the RTA said to us in a meeting over VSB14 and the NSRG papers, that if it were up to him there would be absolutely no modified cars on the streets of NSW”…..
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If it goes out to public comment , can we do something about it when it comes out? Again we need to get some sort of protest/concerned letter to our politicians before its to late!
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Did anyone go to the meeting?
I didn't...It was a message from a mate.
I think we all need to get together as a car community...from 4cly and rotaries to the V8's and muscle cars..... Stand together as one and have a proper voice.
I have written to my local member...... We all need to do the same.
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Info regarding the outcome of this meeting has been a bit light on,Found a little bit on ozrodders that enlightens us of the days events a little...Appears there is much discussion and organisation still required,needles to say there are some very unhappy rodders outt here and the wider car enthusiast should be concerned.
Below are some posts from the forum,with a link for the forum..
Re: Registration info day
by JohnL on Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:44 am
I've seen a couple of posts asking for info on how this meeting went, so this is my 2 cents' worth. I've posted it in Elvis' original thread so that he'll get an email notification and may respond to clarify anything that I've misinterpreted.
Firstly, Elvis, Kim, Dave and the other (and earlier) ASRF luminaries who've been working on this street rod rego project for decades deserve a medal. We can register rods at present because of their past efforts. The fear that this would no longer be the case brought together maybe a couple of hundred (?) rodders for an update. The vast majority were really glad of the chance to hear what the ASRF committee was up to with the RTA but there were a few who seemed to have strong frustrations with the process but no strategy for resolving the looming problems. The discussion became bogged down several times with Elvis having to answer the same question again and again- the bloke sitting next to me had to plead for us to move on a couple of times- the meeting took about 3 hours when the info could have been downloaded in more like an hour.
As I understand it, the issue is that the RTA wants to change the NSW rego system so that the Modified Production rules that we register street rods under no longer apply. It seems they'll want all street rods to be treated as individually constructed vehicles (ICVs) and subjected to the continuing stream of ADR changes this causes. For most rodders, that would mean "club rego" would be their only option because the ICV rules are much tougher than the MP rules we have now.
This appears to be where there is some controversy among rodders and Elvis appeared to get some criticism on the basis that negotiating about applying the National Street Rod Guidelines (NSRGs) was motivating the RTA to withdraw the MP rules. The proponents of this theory didn’t seem to have much support, and they obviously don’t understand that it’s what bureaucrats do for a living that guarantees the MP rules won’t stay set in concrete. Apparently one of the key RTA officials involved with the process had said, “If I had my way, there'd be no modified cars on the road.” The strategy of Elvis’ opponents seems to be “let’s ask for a halt on changes to the MP rules”- these guys obviously aren’t professional lobbyists.
I had heard that the rules were going to be changed by this December, but I think Elvis said the RTA was going to release a draft paper on their proposed changes in February.
As I understand it, the ASRF’s strategy is to push for the RTA to accept the National Light Vehicle Modification VSB 14 guidelines which include the NSRGs. The advantage of this is that you get a nationally consistent registration system, and that rodders can use new repro chassis without lying about their authenticity as original rails and crossmembers. This has got to be a huge benefit, but the RTA is pushing back on this- I think Elvis said it’s not so much because they don’t like the NSRGs, but because of the wider scope of VSB14.
According to Elvis, the attitude of the RTA is that rodders have an advantage that no-one else has and there should be a level playing field for modified vehicles so that Cobras (ICVs) and rods meet the same rules- “why should the blue car have easier registration requirements than the red car?” is their position. The point that Elvis made and needs to be constantly promoted by rodders is that the ICVs are for “individual” vehicles, where the NSRGs are for “ASRF-community vehicles” modifications- modified original pre-‘49 cars and replicas of them. Apparently Mark Saunders has done a valuable paper on the risk management aspects of allowing ASRF cars to have a set of rules of their own.
The only thing that I couldn't see being done is an approach to the Minister's office directly instead of to the bureaucrats only. The politicians are actually more important than the regulators sometimes .
This meeting reminded me how valuable the ASRF is and how futile it is for the odd rodder with an outlaw mentality to think it’s feasible to make your own rules up in opposition to a government bureaucracy. The ASRF has been very persistent in keeping this registration system viable over the years by working with the bureaucrats. I’ve got to do something about joining .
What I took home from this:
1) The MP rules are going to be made harder if the RTA bureaucrats get their way.
2) An RTA consultation paper is due for release in February 2011.
3) The ASRF strategy is to try to negotiate the application of the NSRGs to NSW rego for pre-49 cars.
4) Efforts are being made to gather support from a wide range of private motoring enthusiasts’ groups in a roundtable type group to increase lobbying power.
So thanks again Elvis, Kim, Dave and others. And to the Regency Ramblers for their hospitality and BBQ breakfast!
NEXT...
Re: Registration info day
by '26bits on Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:46 am
Thanks for the very succinct report John L.
I was there and was pleasantly surprised by the mostly positive meeting and the eye opening on just what it is that the ASRF are doing in this ongoing saga with the RTA.
I think it was Elvis who stated that at the start of all this negotiation there were 102 different motoring groups affected by the Modified Production rules and now there are only 2 who stuck to their guns and are getting vehicles registered......... Trikes and Street Rods!
Anyone who is professionaly involved in this industry (Modified Vehicles) and is not a member of AAAA, or the aftermarket assoc., should seriously consider joining as it will add to the numbers of affected businesses and livelyhoods and directly affects lobying power. The AAAA acts in a similar fasion to SEMA in the US and is affiliated with SEMA and the ASRF have been affiliated with AAAA for the past twelve months.
The same goes for ASRF membership. How many Voters are miffed is what makes a polly sit up and take notice and they judge that by electorates which average out at approximately 42,000 voters. The amalgamation with other motoring groups should add up to something like a 750,000 headcount of voters. All of this is in the early stages and IMHO should have happened years ago, but better late than never.
This brought the meeting to the sending of the petition most of us signed. Tirns out not to have been such a good idea, mainly because of the comment facility.
The minister received the petition with 5000 signatures and I don't know how many comments were included, but there were 32 derogitory remarks of varying degrees.
The minister asked the RTA "please explain" and the RTA inturn asked KIm Featherstone "WTF is this"? He couldn't and was red faced to say the least. Kim went on to explain that this action could have jeopodised all of the years of negotiations between the ASRF and the RTA. The RTA were miffed at the fact that the subject of meetings held between the two bodies in confidence, had become widespread public knowledge.
In hindsight, maybe we should be a little bit more diligent by asking questions of the ASRF commitee before such a thing happens again.
I was glad that I went.
NEXT..
Re: Registration info day
by JohnL on Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:09 pm
deuce1932 wrote:
...shoot me down if you may but it's my simpleton opinon
I said earlier in this post that we need legal representation now... some said "as a last resort".. but when will that last resort be.. were cutting it fine guys.
Give me an ASRF account number & I'll write a cheque now for my part.
I feel your pain- I have a '38 Ford ute project that won't be finished before February. But your "let's write a cheque for a lawyer" strategy sounds futile- what is the appeal mechanism you're planning to use? The state government can write any regulations they please and your only grounds (in NSW) for complaint IMHO is that they're not applying them with administrative fairness. Hang on, rodders already have better treatment than ICVs, doesn't that mean to be administratively fair they've got to treat the "blue car the same as the red car?"
krusty wrote:
i strongly agree with duece1932 on the fact that we need to get some bigger balls and hit these censored aers as hard as we can , lets give them everything we have
Go ahead and chest off at the bureaucrats Shane, but how is this likely to be effective in getting rods registered in future?
I understand why rodders are upset, but I don't have any patience with futile non-strategies.
The only strategy I've seen with any appeal is the ASRF's push for national guidelines to be applied, while NSW wants to write its own regs. The federal Office of Best Practice Regulation's has a role ensuring that the states can justify "boutique" regs. Maybe the OBPR might require a regulatory impact statement of the RTA.
from http://www.finance.gov.au/obpr/proposal ... dance.html:
"Is a RIS Required?
The OBPR is required to assess whether a proposal triggers the need to prepare a Regulation Impact Statement (RIS). To allow the OBPR to assess if a proposal requires a RIS, departments and agencies should contact the OBPR once the administrative decision is made that regulation may be necessary, but before a policy decision is made, and provide the following information:
•Name of the Agency / Department
•Name of the Proposal
•A description of the proposal detailing:
◦the nature of the proposal
◦the intent of the proposal
◦whether the proposal is likely to impact on business or not-for-profit organisations,
either directly or indirectly
◦the nature of the impacts – whether the proposal restricts the activities of certain
businesses or whether it acts more indirectly, and
◦the size of the likely impacts– how many businesses will be affected and whether there
will be effects on the community more broadly.
At this stage, the information you provide to the OBPR does not need to be particularly detailed; it just needs to allow the OBPR officer to make an accurate assessment about the likely impacts of the proposal.
In general terms, the more the proposed regulation impacts on business operations, and the greater the number of businesses or not-for-profit organisations that will be affected, the more likely it is that a RIS will be required"
LINK TO THE FORUM...
For anyone wanting to read more.
http://www.ozrodders.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=38040&start=15
Hoorroo
Luke
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What is the AAAA? and can we lobby the OBPR? or is that only for government departments?
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It's definitely not near the ROTFL department!