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Title: filters
Post by: usa383 on July 31, 2010, 12:40:40 AM
Fitted a Sakura oil filter to the vette today.
Filled the sump with Amsoil and started the engine ,all was going fine so I backed the car off the ramps and all of a sudden I noticed I had no oil pressure.Switched the engine straight off and jumped out of the car to notice about 3 litres of oil underneath the car.
The oil filter had fallen off.
I called myself all the names under the sun for not putting it on properly then wiped off the filter and fitted it again making sure every thing was correct, topped up the oil, started the engine, idled nicely then I gave it a small rev, oil pressure went to 70psi then 0,the bloody thing fell off again.
Now I have a ryco on there everything is ok for now until the Amsoil filter arrives.
I went to a different shop to get the ryco filter and noticed a Sakura filter behind the counter and told the bloke this story and he said "thats funny because this one is a return because it didn't fit correctly and was leaking oil"
Make up you're own minds but I WONT EVER USE THEM AGAIN.
Cheers Dave
Title: filters
Post by: sms777 on July 31, 2010, 01:51:22 PM
Honestly, why would you bypass a Ryco or Cooper filter. I had my own bad luck with Sakura filters years ago so i would not touch them with a six foot pole.
For a Chev there is always AC Delco available from your local Holden dealer.

Title: filters
Post by: LeighP on July 31, 2010, 02:46:16 PM
Ryco or AC Delco please.....
One of our members had a complete strip down and rebuild when a "so called" performance Penzoil filter literally exploded internally and filled his engine with paper filter material.
There are some seriously crap oil filters out there in the market place.
Title: filters
Post by: PAP on July 31, 2010, 04:59:12 PM
I run with the System 1 re-usable oil filter,it has a stainless steal inner and a hard case alloy outer which you washout when you do your oil change.
The good thing is that you can see whats going on in there if there are any problems, they don't come cheap but its one less thing that you would not have to buy. I'm very happy with mine.
 (just my two cents)

Cheers
Title: filters
Post by: ozpont on July 31, 2010, 05:16:49 PM
    The  GM Delco USA filter is only maybe ... A $11 from memory.. .. Far cheaper then any genuine service part you could seriously buy for the car...  for that reason we NEVER supply oil filter interchanges.. and don't want to know about them.... just not worth  stuffing up a good blokes engine.  And just while on the subject..genuine ones that fit.. can come in a few sizes to help with restricted access/space etc.  I also have a filter magnet on the Turbo TA's filter to help keep any micro-grit trapped in the filter.
Title: filters
Post by: usa383 on July 31, 2010, 05:17:25 PM
I only used the filter because I'm in the sticks and my brother inlaw[engine builder] was coming down to adjust the rockers,carby etc and it was the only filter available at the time.[I had an Amsoil filter coming]
So I thought it would be ok for the 10 minutes or so we needed to run the car.

Thanks Pap,I have seen those filter advertised but have never known anyone that's used them.I agree definately the way to go if they are as good as they say.

Title: filters
Post by: sms777 on July 31, 2010, 05:59:03 PM
System 1 filters are good. They are made for serious competition engines or street machines that see more time on the track than on the street. They are also expensive and time consuming and messy to clean. Disposable filters are made for convenience because...they are disposable and can be used for a serious performance street car with reliability.
So... it's your choice.    
Title: filters
Post by: heven67 on July 31, 2010, 07:17:26 PM
I use Baldwin filters, we tested one at work and pressurised it to 1500 lbs before the seam came undone. The ryso sorry ryco we tested only got to 600 and it split.
Title: filters
Post by: lazy69 on July 31, 2010, 07:49:18 PM
You must have a serious oil pump Hev if 600 lbs isn't enough.
Title: filters
Post by: chris67 on July 31, 2010, 08:12:45 PM
i use a professional products oil filter same as system 1 filter reusable, and high filtering with a magnet inside to catch the fine metal elements
Title: filters
Post by: bonnevista on July 31, 2010, 08:21:27 PM
Quote from: heven67 link=topic=3484.msg21307#msg21307
I use Baldwin filters, we tested one at work and pressurised it to 1500 lbs before the seam came undone. The ryso sorry ryco we tested only got to 600 and it split.


What was the point of that??  It still shows the ryco goes many time beyond anything it will experience in a car.

I sometimes wonder how much of a contribution oil filters acutally make in keeping an engine running by doing what it does.  It wasn't until the late '50's that car engines generally started using oil filters.  Prior to that, there was no filtering of oil in the engine.
Title: filters
Post by: usa383 on July 31, 2010, 09:29:53 PM
YES and before then there was horses:lol:
Title: filters
Post by: bonnevista on July 31, 2010, 10:29:04 PM
Quote from: usa383 link=topic=3484.msg21313#msg21313
YES and before then there was horses:lol:


My point being, the engines went just as many miles without oil filters.

I've seen plenty of grimey old 6 banger chevs in rusted out wrecks that you'd think there was no way they'd run, but you hook them up to a battery and away they go.