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Club Events + Buy & Sell => AMCCA Past Events Pictures => Topic started by: MuscleVette on August 05, 2007, 09:26:14 PM
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One of our major sponsors S R Performance has invited our club to hold a Dyno Day at his work shop I was speaking to him today & I told him this month is out because, we have so much on so what about an early date in September before it gets to hot.
Also Greg with the Pontaic would like to have a day at WSID I think our club would enjoy that you don't have to break the track record but just go out & have some fun we would need about 20 cars to make a day of it so lets have the Dyno day first & then get the heads up on what our cars can do before the track day ;I
See Ya Garry.;);F
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Any date on the dyno day? What will be the cost?
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A dyno Day sounds good.... I would be keen to see what the old girl has at the tyres.
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ill be having a chat with steve from sr performance on saturday morning i will discuss this with him.
cheers chris.
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this message below is a quote from steve from sr performance
how does 1st september sound its a saturday ,also i would like to add that it won't be a dyno thrash day i only would like around 20 car's max as i will take my time on each car there will be more than just 1 power up i wiil also give the owners diognostics eg car running to lean/rich maybe needs more /less timing so on ,there will also be food and drink for those who participate cost will be $65 all inclusive ,anyone can come and watch, $5 to spectators that want to eat and drink.
regards steve
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Gary no dyno day is allowed till i get my car.
There the rules
;N
Chris
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Sounds good.
If my car needs some timing adjustment, do you think Steve would make them then and there?
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something easy like that shouldn't be a problem.
but if afr's are out thats a different ball game that means carby off and re jetting and in your case ech you've got 4 of them ,i saw a picture of your engine bay very impressive.
cheers chris.
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More than likely. If Steve can get a few more horsys out of her whilst she is still on the dyno he will. Let me also add for those going to participate or planning to watch the money paid is well worth the hungarian sausages that Steve cooks up on the bbq.
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Originally posted by Topless69
More than likely. If Steve can get a few more horsys out of her whilst she is still on the dyno he will. Let me also add for those going to participate or planning to watch the money paid is well worth the hungarian sausages that Steve cooks up on the bbq.
hey lets get something straight here im the cook ,but yes the hungarian sausage is just devine but wait till you eat my pizza :cool:
cheers chris.
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Originally posted by 68PONY
something easy like that shouldn't be a problem.
but if afr's are out thats a different ball game that means carby off and re jetting and in your case ech you've got 4 of them ,i saw a picture of your engine bay very impressive.
cheers chris.
Where did you see the picture?
The webers are no longer :mad:, its now a 650dp;N
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Originally posted by two89w
Originally posted by 68PONY
something easy like that shouldn't be a problem.
but if afr's are out thats a different ball game that means carby off and re jetting and in your case ech you've got 4 of them ,i saw a picture of your engine bay very impressive.
cheers chris.
Where did you see the picture?
The webers are no longer :mad:, its now a 650dp;N
in the ford section of this forum you posted them up
what happened to the webers.
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I sold them to part finance a track/rally datsun 1600 !
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Is the 1st of September confirmed?
Is it a Chev v's Ford theme?:D
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Originally posted by two89w
Is the 1st of September confirmed?
Is it a Chev v's Ford theme?:D
dave thats the day we would like to have it ,if we wait till later in the year its to hot, but as you can see from the responce no one apart from yourself is keen, it doesn't have to be a chev vs ford thing but if we don't get enough responce from this club maybe you can ask some people from the mustang forum if they would like to join in.
if we get 10 cars im sure steve will still go ahead with the day
cheers chris.
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Maybe we should have the 68 coupe v's 68 vert dyno day!:4
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Originally posted by two89w
Maybe we should have the 68 coupe v's 68 vert dyno day!:4
dave i just spoke to steve this day is going ahead regardless there are a few of his customers coming so the dyno day is on ,leave the missus at home and the boys are going to play with there toys.
sr performance address is 11a arncliffe street arncliffe
see you there dave.
if anyone from the club does decide to come please let us know we need numbers for food thanks.
cheers chris .
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Put my 67 down for a starter.
67 v 68 now.
David.
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289 v's 390 :D
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289 vs 390 vs 351:cool:
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Let you in on a secret, the 390 has a lazy cylinder, so she a 7 1/2 cylinder at the moment, that what i am going to speak to the guy's about on the dyno day.
David.
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Originally posted by GTA390
Put my 67 down for a starter.
67 v 68 now.
David.
no probs david your in:cool:
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Originally posted by GTA390
Let you in on a secret, the 390 has a lazy cylinder, so she a 7 1/2 cylinder at the moment, that what i am going to speak to the guy's about on the dyno day.
David.
david don't worry steve doesn't just mash the pedal he'l do a couple of light runs to make sure your afr's are okay (air/fuel ratios)and that the motor sounds okay before he gives it some ,dont worry about what it makes mine made about 175-180hp@the wheels when it was stock ,its all about getting together having some petrol fuming fun and we can't get booked seeing what top speed the cars can do.
cheers chris
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I would like to give the Camaro a run , still trying to get some K's on the motor , will come & watch for sure but.
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Hey Lazy...give it to me...I will put some K's up on it !!!
BTW it looked great the other night...Nice to see it on the road again....
Kris :cool:
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Originally posted by lazy69
I would like to give the Camaro a run , still trying to get some K's on the motor , will come & watch for sure but.
when you smell the fumes it will be all to much for you and then you will say throw it on, the need to know how many ponys she has will be over powering :cool:
cheers chris
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The 289 is all good and mashing the pedal is mandatory.:4
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Originally posted by two89w
The 289 is all good and mashing the pedal is mandatory.:4
we can accommadate your request
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What time is kick off?
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Originally posted by two89w
What time is kick off?
we will be starting at 9am till when ever:cool:
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Will hopefully be there with a car, if not might come for a while and watch and enjoy some v8 noise
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So who are the starters from this forum and what will you be putting on the dyno?
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Will hopefully be putting a 71 fastback with a 351 clv block on the dyno
*fingers crossed*
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With 351 Clevo block,whats inside the clevo block?
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geez we might aswell call it the all ford dyno day thats at least 6 mustangs that i know of going, cmon you chevy owners show some ticker:D
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It looks like windsor v's clevo v's FE
My moneys on the Windsors:4
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Hi Guys.
I was speaking to Steve today from S&R what he was telling me this will be a great day & well worth the $65 to have your car Dynoed & maybe you will find out a few technical tips as well & don't forget lunch is included & we will have some fun as well.
See Ya Garry.:cool: ;F
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How many sleeps?
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Originally posted by two89w
It looks like windsor v's clevo v's FE
My moneys on the Windsors:4
Well that depends on who's got what done to there engine.
In stock form with original transmitions, my money would be on the Clevo for the most HP (at the wheels), and the FE for the most torque.
Thats my calculated guess, maybe there should be a sweep on the day, a bit like the melbourne cup but with real horsepower.
David.
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289 (40 thou over), 10.1 comp, alloy windsor snr's, solid cam (2300-6000rpm powerband) 650dp, rpm air gap.
Lets have two catergories...........Most HP or KW'S and the highest Torque figure (however that is measured)
:D
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Originally posted by two89w
289 (40 thou over), 10.1 comp, alloy windsor snr's, solid cam (2300-6000rpm powerband) 650dp, rpm air gap.
Lets have two catergories...........Most HP or KW'S and the highest Torque figure (however that is measured)
:D
you can't really measure torque on a dyno as gearing can make a huge difference ,power figure will be the same eg same car same power first run with say 3.25 diff then same car with 3.7 gears the power figure will be the same but the torque figure with the 3.7 will be higher, remember the dyno reads from the wheels not the engine.
cheers chris.
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What they cant measure torque? well there goes my chance.
Not 100 % sure but think she is standard other than inlet manifold, and a lumpy sound and rough idle, i put that down to the lazy cylinder on the left bank.
You can pick it at idle but once you get above 1000 rpm she is smooth( like all fords) that should stir up the GM folk;J
Looking at a Offy manifold with dual carters on ebay, high rise don't know if i want to go the whole hog on this car, i have a passion for getting a Galaxie and going to town on it.
David.
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So my torque should show reasonably big as I have 4.1 diff. :D
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Originally posted by GTA390
What they cant measure torque? well there goes my chance.
Not 100 % sure but think she is standard other than inlet manifold, and a lumpy sound and rough idle, i put that down to the lazy cylinder on the left bank.
You can pick it at idle but once you get above 1000 rpm she is smooth( like all fords) that should stir up the GM folk;J
Looking at a Offy manifold with dual carters on ebay, high rise don't know if i want to go the whole hog on this car, i have a passion for getting a Galaxie and going to town on it.
David.
yes they do but it doesn't reflect a true reading unless you have the cars running the same diff ratios, if your going to compare
cheers chris dave you still have a chance
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Originally posted by two89w
So my torque should show reasonably big as I have 4.1 diff. :D
yes thats true ,all runs are done in top, 1 to 1 4th gear in man 3rd gear auto
cheers chris.
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guys i spoke to steve we can put tacho gearing in the computor eg match car revs and car speed and the computor will compensate cars with lower gears ,cars with no tachos we will use a tacho timing light it will take a little longer but who cares.
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Have another Hungarian sausage while we wait;)
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Originally posted by GTA390
Have another Hungarian sausage while we wait;)
hmmmmmm is good
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Originally posted by 68PONY
guys i spoke to steve we can put tacho gearing in the computor eg match car revs and car speed and the computor will compensate cars with lower gears ,cars with no tachos we will use a tacho timing light it will take a little longer but who cares.
Sounds good to me, I have a tacho so things should be easy.
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Does anyone have a 750dp or vac sec holley (working) that I can try on my car on the dyno day?
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Originally posted by two89w
Does anyone have a 750dp or vac sec holley (working) that I can try on my car on the dyno day?
dave i have a barry grant 750 vac sec on mine why don't we try a swap, i went for a vac sec cause my stang is auto with low gearing a double pumper might have bogged it down but i woudn't mind seeing what a double pumper would go like ,ill talk to steve ,ill be at the workshop on wednesday getting the tappets adjusted
cheers chris.
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Sounds good to me ! :4
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Originally posted by two89w
It looks like windsor v's clevo v's FE
My moneys on the Windsors:4
Sorry if this is a silly question but what makes windsors better tha clv? is it that its just a lighter block?
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Sounds good to me !
I can agree with that.
When Chis flew past me on the way to Eastern Creek. It sound's awsome:6
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Windsor's are not better than Clevo's or vice versa.
Its just that I have a windsor :4
My personal view is that clevo's are better than windsor's (due to there power handling capabilites.):D
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Yeh thought that windsors were just favoured for racing because they were lighter
I personally before the sound of a clv over a windsor but thats just me
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Originally posted by Sinister
Yeh thought that windsors were just favoured for racing because they were lighter
I personally before the sound of a clv over a windsor but thats just me
you might change your mind when you listen to my 351windsor
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Hpw many RPM'S will you take the 351 upto on the dyno?
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it makes peak power at about 5900 so maybe 6100-6200
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Ok...............Did you find out today from Steve if we can do the carb swap?
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he said shouldn't be a problem hopefully the linkage setups arn't to different , you won't beleive what we discovered today ,i bought my engine of a guy from the cobra car club it was in his cobra and we drove it before we bought it we also new that the bakers did the machining but we didn't know much about the builder the car went hard and sounded good,today we couln't adjust one of the rockers it turned out they put one hydraulic lifter in by mistake ,i have a solid cam ,also the bearings in the rockers are stuffed lucky i decided to adjust them today and not friday ,any way will be finished tomorrow afternoon.
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I am running a cable set up, so it will not be a problem for me, We can go with the flow on the day.
Who are bakers?
What heads are you running?
Very lucky you got in early to get it ready.
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bakers is the name of the family it was a brother parnershp i think now they have gone there seperate ways they are highly regarded as the best engine balancers they also do aviation work the heads are the standard iron heads but ported by rams heads at windsor flow charts say 220cfm at 500 lift which is around 450hp
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I had my heads ported by RAMS.
They have a good rep.
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Chris
I will answer your question here as I cannot log into the mustang site.
Bob Meally (Peakhurst) built my engine. No I have not had it on the dyno.
It goes hard for a 289 but my old 347 with webers was awsome.........................I just have to wipe away the tears.
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Hey Guys
Sorry if this another silly question, but would a bigger carb on a small block make much of a difference if any?
Just thought you but big carbs on big blocks or high performance engines?
Chris
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Originally posted by Sinister
Hey Guys
Sorry if this another silly question, but would a bigger carb on a small block make much of a difference if any?
Just thought you but big carbs on big blocks or high performance engines?
Chris
if the motor is stock anything bigger than a 650 is a waste of time even if its mild a 650 will be enough my 351 has a 750 on it but i have a big cam ported heads forged piston's 30thou over
cheers chris
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My Car is being fixed for rego (Corvette oil leaks) so i might just come up and watch should be a good day
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Go the white one :4
Which end of arncliffe st is it? Lusty street end or the station end?
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My money is on the white one aswell
David.
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We both have white stangs and the same name......:4
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sorry to disapoint but for small block cars i told steve to send the 1st place trophy away so they can ingrave my name on it :D
we will have a big block catagorie and a small block catagorie i think thats fair
now now gta390 don't kick up a stink lol
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Originally posted by two89w
We both have white stangs and the same name......:4
yes but everyone knows red is faster.:cool:
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So i win by default? is there any other FE's turning up or BB chev's.
I heard that red was fast, but white is right;F
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What time is everybody getting there?
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Originally posted by two89w
What time is everybody getting there?
ll be there at 9
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And the winner is?
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didnt you end up going???
Unfortunatly i had to work back late and wasnt able to make it
:mad:
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What a great day at S R Performance all thanks to 68 Pony & Steve from SR about 30 cars turned up & they were still being Dynoed when I left will have some :5 from the day up shortly. There was pleanty of ;t & :cool: all day. Really if you missed today make sure you get to the next one. Once again ;J guys for a great day out.
See Ya Garry:cool: ;F
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:) Garry is right... a gr8 day! plenty of horsepower & testostorne flowing... next time i think i'll give the Firebird a run... thank's for the day Steve & crew...
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Originally posted by Sinister
didnt you end up going???
Unfortunatly i had to work back late and wasnt able to make it
:mad:
Yes I was there..............I am pretty happy with the outcome
322.6 rwhp @ 5500 rpms............got to be happy with that!
I am starting to think if I was to install a victor jnr manifold, 750dp a bit more comp and a cam to make power to 7000rpms I could make a few more rwhp.:4
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dave(two89w) your mustang kicked ass:4 was easily the most powerfull small block there ,steve from sr performance won the day with 449hp in his 454 stingray, mine made 285hp i will post up the dyno sheets on monday night.
cheers chris
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hi guys just signed into site, after been at the dino day at steves, would of liked to of seen steves car on the dino, just wanted to say wat a top day and count we in for the next one. hopefully i wont pull the car apart the nte b4 like i did this time lol.
cant wait to catch up with u guys again
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Hi Chris
Great pizza and snags :4
A great day in all. Good work.
At what rpms did your car make 285hp?
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hi dave peak power was at 5900rpm the day before it made 280hp but with the air cleaner off and the afr's were 13.4 still abit lean for my likeing but it was getting late and in our haste to get home we forgot to power it up with the air cleaner on ,well we left the air cleaner on on sat and went to 285hp but the afr's were a perfect 12.7 so the air cleaner richened up the fuel and hence the extra horspower, so if anyone thinks a air cleaner robs power well if done right not the case at all
cheers chris.
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I stayed to watch Steve run his car up & it was insane , well worth watching it trying to launch itself from the dyno . can't wait to get some miles on my motor & see what it'll make . had a top time. thanks guys
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Lazy thats an awsome looking car ! :4
Who can lend me a vic jnr and 750dp?
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Originally posted by two89w
Lazy thats an awsome looking car ! :4
Who can lend me a vic jnr and 750dp?
dave your kidding leave it as it is your afr's were on the rich side anyway i think a 750 would drown it we have never seen a 289 make that much power naturally asperated ,you know the saying when your on a good thing.
cheers chris.
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A big block thanks to everyone who participated in the dyno and diagnostic day at SR Performance on the first of september. We hope it was informative and fun to boot.
Cheers, Steve
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i wish i could have made it i will be at the next 1 for sure
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To steve and chris , thanks for arranging the day for us it was a great day lots of fun.
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Thanks to those concerned, it was a good day and i'm in the 200 club so that's a bonus.
David.
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Chris, at what rpms was your peak torque (tractive LB)?
Did anyone see the green 67 on the dyno?
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Here's the video of mine [btw thanks dave for your help]
http://s164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/johnpony_2007/Car%20Videos/?action=view¤t=Nadinedynorear.flv
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Originally posted by two89w
Chris, at what rpms was your peak torque (tractive LB)?
Did anyone see the green 67 on the dyno?
i didn't look at the torque ill look when i get a chance as for the green 67 mustang it made 249hp from memory when i get the copies from steve ill will post them up
cheers chris
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You can hear the power increase until the rev limiter cuts in, but you can tell theres a lot more power hiding in there.
Just a simple chip change isn't it ?
David.
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Originally posted by two89w
Chris, at what rpms was your peak torque (tractive LB)?
Did anyone see the green 67 on the dyno?
i just got the txt sheet max torque was at 4000rpm 1263lb (roller torque)but what amazed me was steve stomped on it at 110kph 3793rpm it had 206hp by 124kph 4276rpm it had 254hp a gain of almost 50hp with only a extra 500rpm thats why autos with high stall converters just hammer off the line at the drags
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That does it, I am putting in an auto :D
My biggest jump in hp was 49hp between 3500 and 4000 rpms
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Hi Guys here are the :5 from our dyno day.
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What a great day had by all ;J Chris & Steve.
See Ya Garry:cool:;F
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Originally posted by two89w
That does it, I am putting in an auto :D
My biggest jump in hp was 49hp between 3500 and 4000 rpms
Really?
Thanks to all it was a blast and the wog sausage was awsume! YUMM! Ohh and the cars were OK too.
Cheers PAull